On education...

It is a well-known fact that education is becoming costlier and costlier everyday. Commercialization of education is rampant. I could rant on and on... Everyday I listen to FM radio, the RJ would ask a telephone caller (if he is a student, what he would like to be. The answer would a default - doctor or engineer.I have never ever heard another reply, excepting an odd collector.) Why?... Because our society places a high premium on these so-called professionals. So everyone is really willing to pay whatever it takes to become one. And when people are willing, who would let go of an opportunity to make a buck or two? In the end who suffers? People like you and me (like Manny said). Oops! I forgot about the students. they are really a pitiable group. They spend so much on getting a professional qualification while losing out on thier education. How else could they pay thier debts other than turn to fleecing people out of thier money. The next time I hear someone say thier child wants to become an engineer or a doctor, I am surely gonna give them a piece of my mind. But it would be wrong to compare our education with the ones in Europe and US. There people know that they have to know something else in addition to thier professional qualifications. That is what that makes them be on top. During the recent dotcom burst, we in India cry hoarse over the nr. of s/w pros sent out. How did the average US s/w pro fired at the same time take it? He would have gone out searching for any knick-knack jobs that came his way till the tide turned. How did he bear things out? Because he might have learned it from childhood that education alone doesn't count in life. I guess you might know what counts here more. Bye for now.

blog gone crazy...

Hey jax, whatever u r doing... Half of ur previous post is coming with a "Strikeout" style... Archives could be a drop down box, and I feel 50% is less space for posts.. may be it should be 70% the least. After all, thats our primary area of concern, the others are value additions... But am not sure if any other part will be affected on increasing this size... suggest, atleast try to increase to a more possible extent... and also one more good thing would be name at the top like "Jax says...", that really adds flavor to the blog... The Rock says...If u smellllllallalalala... what the rock... iiiisss cookin....

Layout explanations

Hi, Color: Getting a right colour combination is a headache. As I had said, there will be corrections to the blog now and then. The older one was nice with just grey and white. Stil trying out various colour combinations. if you out there know of any good colour combinations, help me out. Font: The font used for the title is "trebuchet ms, times new roman, monospace". I agree Monotype Corsiva would look superb for the title. But the problem is a MTC is a cursive font, which not many systems came installed with. That's why generic fonts have been used. Anyway I'll try to add it to the title. If someone doesn't have MTC installed, then they will have to adjust with trebuchet ms or times new roman or monospace. - Fixed. Font spacing in title: I'll try adjusting the letter spacing a little bit. - Fixed. Empty space: The space after Menu box is intentional. It is present to allow resizing of the window to any size. The size of the boxes are as follows: Blog content: 50%, First sidebar (the one with the Archives section): 30%, The second sidebar (Menu, Info..): 18%. It adds upto 98%. The remaining 2% includes the empty space + paddings and margins for the other boxes. If you still don't like it, then you've got to talk to Bill Gates and ask him to improve CSS support in IE. Layout: The Layout used is known as a "Liquid layout". If I start explain about it, I would be going on and on. So the best place would be Google. Try searching for "liquid layout" including the quotes. But remember that this layout is not 100% liquid. It will liquidise upto a certain limit only. BTW, today Google has launched its India specific version @ Google India. Horizontal Scrollbar: About searching for the horizontal scrollbar, it is really funny if that happened. But the above liquid layout information might explain it better. Borders: Regarding borders for the boxes, If it is not present it gives an appearance of patches all over the blog. so it is required. Also the different color is my fault, I forgot to change the colour of the Archives sidebar. Green: It's true about the green colour. I'll look into it. - Fixed. Blog content being cornered: Actually it is not. AS said earlier, the blog content takes 50% of your screen space. I don't think it has been cornered. I woulld say that it is dominating. Centered layout: I started with the centered layout, but later on changed my mind. I wanted to put the blog content on the rightmost side, but decided against it. Menu: Menus ought to work in almost all browsers. I hope you aren't using NN4. It might also be that the corresponding link is being displayed on the screen. Try hitting Alt+C+Enter. Does a new mail window popup? If not, inform me, I'll look into it. The best way to check out the menu is ensure that the item you need is not on the screen and then use the access keys to navigate to that module. Say you go to the bottom of the page and then hit Alt+A+Enter, the screen should focus on the About Box. Ad appearing on the top: If someone sends me USD 15 every year, I can remove the ad from there. More details: visit here. Sorry, nothing can be done about it right now. Viewing source code: Try again... If you still can't see the source code, log into blogger and click on the Template button and then the Main Template button. You still got admin privileges. Copy the template to a text file locally. I've explained a few things in the template. Go ahead and take a look at it. But please don't make any changes to the template. Counters: There were two counters on the page earlier, One showed the visitors to the page. It was present in the Info box. It is still there the last time I looked. The other gave statistics and other details. I didn't copy it to the new layout. It will be done soon as soon as I get the source code for it. Thanks for spending your time picking apart the blog and sending your suggestions, I'll try to implement as much as I could after getting everyone's suggestions and ideas.

Regarding layout...

For more details, See Ranjini's blog...ha ha... gud rini...comprehensive coverage of the layout...gud.

Education System...A Drowning System

Right from the beginning and still now the education system in India has been tailored with the “One size fits all” kind of attitude, which no longer works well with the emerging global competition. This might be due to the huge population we have which prevents us from customizing the education system according to the talents of the individual. The student was restricted with limited number of choices and he has to go with what he gets…irrespective of his/her likes or dislikes. And this leads people who want something more on education to look around other countries for more prospects. For instance, there are more than 20.000 plus vacant seats in engineering colleges in our state alone. This does not mean that there are no people to opt for these courses. Rather there are hell lot of other factors such as the quality of education in these institutions and the infrastructure as well. Anna University has summoned 40 engineering colleges which don’t have the required infrastructure to make it up to the mark, that u all shud be aware of… This clearly sends a message that, the education in India is not only lagging in its value but also being commercialized. For that matter, our government has granted permission to private medical colleges and the fees per year for a medical student is figured out to be around 80k. so for five years it comes around 4 lacs. This is something which a poor or middle class people cant afford to…I feel. But I don’t get into the details of which government gave this permission and what’s the deal that went on behind the screens…at last its we who are going to suffer from the treatment going to be offered by these half made up doctors who might come out of these private medical colleges with an MBBS degree which they will get out of the money they have…ha ha. So, be prepared to go thru a newly constructed bridge that might collapse while u are passing by it and be prepared to secure your kidneys from doctors who might come out of private medical colleges…ha ha. Ok cutys…bye bye.

Your suggestions noted

So things to be done:

• Leave some space for the blog entry
• Add name of the poster
• Bios have to be put up

As for point nr. 1: I feel that the space does seem ideal, it covers 50% of the screen space. I can extend it to 60%, not more than that. Anything more than that will lead to single line posts in higher resolutions. Currently, I was experimenting to bring the menu section to the top, below the Blog Title. Almost over, I am checking it out for browser compatibility. BTW, have you tried out the access key facility for the menu, to go to the "Info" box, you can just press 'Alt' + 'I' and Enter key. That's all. Faster moving around the blog for you... This is done through XHTML. Ram, regarding the blogrolling section, as it used Javascript and took time to load, I removed it. If required, I can add it anytime you need it. Can you think of something else to put in the blog other than what was there in the earlier layout? Something new. Vijay, about Ajayan and Bala and also Kathu, I had sent them an invite to them long ago. I have not received a reply till now. So today I have resent the invitations. So someone, please help them to go through the proper procedures. What happenned to Sangeetha? She has accepted the invite, but not a single post from her yet. Could someone at Chennai look into it? A request: Please don't use too many line breaks in your post. It adds no value to your message. A one line space is ok between paras. But don't overdo it. Also please reduce the the line breaks after the end of your message. You all know that even a single space occupies the same memory space as a single character. So use lots and lots of alphabets, not empty spaces, except when required. P.S. Don'tpostmessageslikethistoavoidspacesandconservememoryspace. Bye for now,

discussion..??

What happened to the discussion.. never got off... "What do you feel of our present education system..."

Bala & Ajayan ???

to Xavier, Bala and Ajayan told me that still u havnt send invitation to them. I think last week Mahendran gave their ids in one of the post. pls do the needful. regarding layout, good work da machan. color selection is superb. i think in the earlier layout, it has the sender's name on the top.

Still lots of work to do

Yeah, I'll keep that in mind. Suggestion 1: Allow more space for the blog posts. Working offline on the template was useful, but some issues like proper linking of the posts have to be tried out online. So I'll be working on the layout as days go by. Try finding out errrors if you can and also suggestions to improve it.

blog looks great...

Yeah jax, I must have tried when u were fidlding with the templete... Its fine now... and its awesome... looks really great... one suggestion... just wondering if moving the "About" and "Archives" to the right end, thereby giving more space for the text would look good...

Seems to be working fine

Kicha, I don't seem to find any problem in accessing the blog. Can you give a more specific detail. It even works in Mozilla too sans problems. Please try once again and let me know. It could've been that you accessed the page while I was fiddling with the template. Bye,

not opening...

jax, the dayswork.blogspot.com page is not opening...

New Layout

Hi everyone, As you can see, the new layout has been put up. I need your comments and suggestions to improve it further. So please send it asap. Bye,

Note to jax...

yeah, you are right jax. All those phrases not only mean the same thing but also convey the same meaning. Its only redundant and repeating over and over, again and again without adding much meaning to the meaning... hee...heee...

Note to Kicha

I couldn't read the Rediff news as it is blocked at office. So could Kicha just mail the news item to me at my postmark mail id, not to my office id. I'ld be able to give my views then. Does college-time non-serious laid-back activities have any significant impact on someone who really has the potential to make it big"... Kicha, how many adjectives (that too hyphenated) are you using in tha bove sentence? Doesn't 'non-serious' & 'laid-back' more or less convey the same meaning. As you had posted about education, I feel we should be able to implement it also. More later... Busy validating the blog template as XHTML...

present education system...

We have some new topic to discuss now. This is in the lines of the article sent by Mahendran. All of us have completed our rounds of preliminary education... I call it preliminary, because some may still have some plans of doing some course (as Valli does), but the fact that we are PGs lends enough to justify that we are done with the requisites. Having gone through so many phases what do u feel of our education system. Dr.Ravichandran, once told in our class that "we are NOT serious about education" because if we were really serious we would atleast make sure we are inside the class before it begins... And we know how we did our MS degree... My question is, "Does college-time non-serious laid-back activities have any significant impact on someone who really has the potential to make it big"... Can we say that every person WILL reach the maximum extent to which his potential can take irrespective of how/where he/she studies. Political factors have a major influence often.. but what apart from that... Is our education system really flawed...

US still hot for Indian students

See what makes India students choose US for higher studies...

Nice point !!

I feel what Manny said is right. Every person is unique. This point is common to everyone. Maybe we can avoid political issues in this blog.

I have only one AMMA...my mother alone.

I would like to place a humble request in general to everybody and I don’t tell this to rajesh alone…but of course this time I am saying this to rajesh in particular… Rajesh u can have your favor towards a particular political leader and u can be a sincere admirer of any personality for that matter…I don’t have anything to do with ur right to be so…. But for god’s sake, stop calling anybody with the word “AMMA” who don’t deserve to be called so…because no relation in this world is as serene and divine as your mother and its my humble suggestion that no one in this world cud be called AMMA unless she deserves it…and I feel that our CM don’t deserve to be called so. I don’t want to get further into describing her past for that matter which u all know obviously…there is a huge group of politicians all around who ought to call her AMMA…and we are not the ones to do so… This is my request to all others also who are used to call her so… This is my personal opinion and I again reiterate that its only my request to u all…and don’t get this matter hard in u…ok. Bye bye...

New design almost over

Hi, hope everyone had a nice weekend. The new design for the blog is almost over. It is a bright colour. I have included several features in it. I am currently running some tests on it. But it will be ready before August (three days away). Anyone have any suggestions on anything to be included in the layout (other than pictures), please send your suggestions fast. Bye,

more on tamilism...

Its quite true that the mother tongue is the most comfortable medium for communication. No doubt each of us feel more confortable in Tamil. But the only point is, the current state where the world is moving to, forces us to use a foreign langueage just because it is going to play a big role in earning the livelihood for many people. But having said that, if u r not living in Tamil Nadu... tell me honestly... haven't u felt a new found enthusisam when u get a Tamil counterpart - a colleague or a room-mate or a friend... doesn't ur face give a quick little smile when u see a vehicle with TN registration... and if u r not in India llike sindu and Valli... the word "tamil" always gives pleasure as its so scarce that they come across this... Even though, driven by circumstances, we are forced to use English in a lot of places that provide us the daily bread.. its always a passion and a mark of pride when it comes to interacting in Tamil... u will understand that better if u r outside Tamil Nadu... and even better if u r outside the country...

Thanks Manny

Thanks da Manny for your immediate response. The cost of education seems to be increasing day by day. Have a nice weekend everyone.

My thoughts

Hi all, glad getting back to u all this time. I just want to say one thing and wind off... Once prof. Ravichandran in our Marketing class, while trying to clarify a doubt, started out with a real life example...and before giving that example...he uttered these words to the class...it went like... "Though i feel comfortable with my english, i always prefer to speak in tamil as it gives me the feeling of completeness and i would be able to bring in my expressions and thoughts in a more lively manner..." and he continued his lecture in tamil... thats what I too feel...that is, language is something that has become a part of urself... for me when it comes to the matter of language... Always THAMIZH stands first... irrespective of the other reasons such as competitiveness and Global convergence...for which we ought to be prepared...Thamizh is my mother tongue thru which i started perceiving things in this world... And yes...of course...English and other languages are always going to be there...which we cannot ignore...and get along with this world. In short Vaalga Thamizh...Valarga Em Makkal... And regarding Ms.J's so called bold initiatives... I do agree that strikes shud not be encouraged... but I wont accept the mass dismissal of 1 lac + employees in a messy manner and i wont accept the midnight arrests and harasments done to the Trade union office bearers as well... Our chief minister says that when the 98 percent of the population is facing the financial problem, the 2 percent govt employees also shud bear with the cost cutting measures... I cant find any rationale in this argument... i dont know how she was going to devote the money saved from cutting off the privileges of the employyees, for the upliftment of the 98 pecent of the state's population. Ok...these things are beyond my scope and concern and out of my control for that matter. my wishes are not going to have any impacts over the happenings...so let me be a passive listener wrt this discussion. bye bye tamils...!!! And this is for Jax: Machan...here are the details and fee structure... Admission Procedure for the certificate course in Technical Writing Entrance Test The admission will be based on an entrance test covering 1. English Language proficiency 2. General Aptitude 3. Basics computer concepts A student must secure a minimum of 50% to qualify for the enrolment A non refundable Fee of Rs.250/- will be charged for the entrance test. Batch Patterns Part Time – Morning – 7.00 AM – 9.00 AM (Monday – Friday) Part Time – Evening – 6.30 PM – 8.30 PM (Monday – Friday) Full Time – 9.30 AM – 6.00 PM (Lunch Break 1.30 – 2 PM) (Monday – Friday) Enrolment Students enrolled to the program will have to fill in the application form and provide 2 stamp size photograph Fee Detail Full Time – Rs.16,000/- To be paid in one lump sum Part Time –if paid in one lump sum Rs.18,000/- (or) if Paid In Installment Rs.9000/- down payment Rs.5000/- after 30 days of the commencement of the course Rs.5000/- after 60 days of the commencement of the course The fee has to be paid during the time of enrolment The fee can be paid either by Cash / DD / Local Cheque payable to “K9 Technologies Pvt Ltd” Fees once paid will not be refunded Fees has to be paid at our office on any working day between 10.00 AM and 5.00 PM Hope to get back to u all soon with a more lively discussion on a really useful discussion that leads to some concrete efforts which we can make for our overall development in career and life as well. (But i dont mean that this is a useless discussion rather...cutys!!!)

News to Manny

Hi Manny and everyone else. Manny if you're interested in TW as a career, yoiu might find this useful. Also i9f possible could you or someone else at Chennai enquire about the fees & other details? I expected a few posts yesterday, nothing so far. Is this the end of the discussion, I am eager to hear what Viz Babu, Manny, Ganja have to say about the discussion on Tamil. Bye, for now.

Jayalalithaa's eminently sensible act

Jayalalitha is a different person altogether. After the tactical blunder of the arrest of arch-rival M Karunanidhi in full view of television lights, the chief minister of Tamil Nadu seems to have bested her rivals in strategic power plays. She gave them rope, without herself taking any initiatives, and they have hanged themselves through infighting and confusion. In particular, Karunanidhi's DMK looks like a bloodied and punch-drunk boxer who took one too many hit to the head. Read the complete article from News u must read

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My views

I was on leave yesterday. So I couldn't support or refute a few points said in past few days. Nice to see a lot of good points being brought up by everyone... To Valli, Good to hear that you had chosen Spanish, the second most spoken language in the mainland USA. Maybe we can have a conversation in Spanish sometime, Señora. My apologies, if my post had given an impression that NRIs are not contributing to the Indian society. As you have said, it is true that the salary is more on the other side of the fence. I wouldn't refute it. It is also true that the salaries here are not on par with the salaries there. People here too are earning that much, even freshers. But an important point that you might not have considered is the conversion rate for a US$ to INR. That is the only thing that generates the revenue. I think this topic of working in foreign lands or motherland looks good for a discussion. As for Tamil language, it is my mother tongue. I am proud of it. As for speaking in Tamil in public, I never have found it difficult. Yeah, there are times when I find it difficult to write in Tamil. It is mostly due to my wonderful handwriting (you people might know that). I cannot understand or recognize a single character of what I have written in Tamil, whereas somehow I can understand my handwriting in English very well. That's why I use English most often, not for me but for others to understand. Reg. Kavi's post, "They practice it here..that’s it." You are right in saying that everyone wants to go abroad and earn. So they are practicing it here. But there are some things and certain customs that you can never practice here in India. Rajesh had wanted everyone to talk in Tamil. But there are a few words in each language that has no equivalent in the other or a ambigious meaning. Words like Love has different connotations in English whereas Tamil has various words to express it. I don't think no one uses the word "Kanipori" whenever he wants to say 'Computer' or "Innya Thalam" for "Internet". So I don't think we need to follow Linguistic Tamil in our day to day life. It is just that we limit the words alien to Tamil to a minimum. In fact the one thing that irritates me while speaking to with a person is a person frequently shifting languages. They speak a few lines in English, suddenly they switch to Tamil. Then again they switch back to English. It really bugs me a lot, just as it did bug Sindhu. When they speak in English, you are forced to speak in English, when they change to Tamil, you are also forced to change to Tamil. I really cannot stand it at all As Ram had quipped, it is not the language that is important, but the development of the nation that is important. But we can teach our children, speak to our children in Tamil. And it is our duty. So all said, it's time for me to say Bye/Vaaren/Ciao/Adios/Auf Wiederhören/Khuda hafiz

NEWS: IT professionals return to India

It is believed to be India's first ever campaign to lure Indian ex-pats away from high-tech industries in Silicon Valley. The glossy brochure promoting the jobs fair in Santa Clara is further evidence of a reversal in the Valley's fortunes. Its front page boldly declared that "India is Hiring" - the subtext being that Silicon Valley is not. Read full-story.

Kavitha Natarajan says...

I agree rini’s point of view that language is used as a mean of communication. What we are expressing or learning using the language matters a lot. But most of the people will not see language as a medium, it’s been used as a scale or a determining factor for the living style or Aptitude of the person. That’s what influencing people & makes them use English even when you meet someone from your motherland. This might give the person a sense of security that ‘I am also belong to this group..’. On the other hand, People are paid off in foreign lands&this is a real case. So people out here have desire to go there& earn at one time or other. So it’s mandatory for them to use English in every day life and it’ not just ‘they want to adopt the foreign custom’. It’s a competitive world & everyone has to prove themselves in all the dimension. They practice it here..that’s it. All this contribute to the mindset of a person like ‘using Tamil in public place is a disgrace’. However It’s important to make our younger generation to learn tamil properly. But it shudn’t stop us from exploring a new language. My personal opinion is..It make no sense spending time in translating all the technical stuff from English into some language whether it is japanese or tamil. We can put all the efforts into some meaningful work which can contribute something to our society. If you remember the Time management chart which Raja sir told in our class..I put this in ‘Not important & Not urgent’ group. It’s so nice to see a blog from rajesh after a long time. I haven’t seen the mission statement which ram sent. I will see it. See you all in next blog.Bye..

nuthin spl...

Am typing this in a typical multitasking environment... Am chatting with valli on Y! msgr... am mailing kavi and having a mail-conversation with her... am doing a "middle-man" making kavi chat with valli... am checking my mails in all my IDs... am listening to "Paint my love" by Michael learns to Rock...and am answering some questions to my teammate... Today was another very taxing day with the project... just one of those times... hmmmmmm.......

thats a nice link ram

Great link regarding Mission statements da machaan. Thanx Mahen.

some more project pulambal...

Had a quick chat with my PL during snacks this evening... and he asked me "How's it going...", Predictably enough, I said "As monotonous as anything..." and he pipped in saying "Come back soon, I've got some really interesting work for u...!!" Yeah... I know, anything is gonna be interseting other than this project. My team is developing a framework called SPEED.NET ... It is going to be an out-of-the-box enabler for projects... I mean, it'll have virtually every utility that is needed in any project using Microsoft's Technologies. The bits and pieces for SPEED are being discussed now. My PL told me that I'll also be a significant contributor to SPEED when I get back from this (stupid) project. In fact, he asked me if I'll be able to spare 2 hours everyday amid my project to begin my work on SPEED. But I said that is impossible with this frustratingly ridiculous project. It seems SPEED will be trademarked by Infy once it gets a concrete shape. So, I could imagine its significance. Just wish I had a time machine that I can rotate and move 1.5 months ahead and start working on SPEED... ;-((

A thought provoking post by Rajesh - my views on it

Hi all, Interesting to see a discussion after a long time. I certainly agree with Rajesh on many of his points. Yesterday I faced a similar problem only this time; I had to translate from Tamil to English. I found it difficult. I have not completed it yet. The political parties are making a hue and cry over declaring Tamil a national language. If it is declared so, then will other states start teaching Tamil? Definitely not. Soon we might have 30-35 national languages. Think of the country, already with Hindi as the national language, you and I cannot understand what someone from Bihar is saying or vice versa. I think those in Bang. can explain how it feels to speak Tamil in Karnataka. I really wonder how Valli & Sinduja are faring in an alien land. As Rajesh had said, it is up to us. But the problem is that people have a mindset. They believe that you can be well off only if you go to foreign lands alone. So, what they do is that they try to adopt foreign customs without understanding what they really mean. But they also want their children to be culturally attached to our values. This creates confusion in minds of children. They don't know what to follow and end up following nothing. They know neither Tamil nor English. I remember a scene from the movie 'Minnale'. Madhavan, Vivek and a few of his friends will be having a thanni party. One of them will start off in English. Then Vivek will ask him to write a leave letter. Hope you remember that scene. It starkly portrays the modern generation. That includes you and me. I know a lot of Anglo-Indians, lots of close and dear friends. I found out that most of them really follow the values of Tamil culture. They find it better than their own culture. As for Tamil as a language, No political party can lay claim to it. It belongs to the people. Bye, ØÂÕ¿ÀÓ ÀÔ¿Ó P.S. if the above line appears as junk, it is due to the problems that Tamil faces, just as many dialects being present in Tamil, there are several fonts for Tamil. I remember a few years back, there were talks of creating a unified font for Tamil, I don't know if it has been done yet. If someone knows of it, then we can use it to display a few messages in Tamil. The above line is my sign in Tamil. Bye, expecting other views from everyone.

more on tamilism...

Politics apart... the times have changed from what it was in the earlier days. Competition is at its peak. It all depends how much versatile u could show urself off (even if u aren't that much)... Knowledge and the perceived importance of English is not just a question of knowing "one more" language but a mandatory one. With due respects to the mother-tongue, there's always a comparison with countries like Japan where English knowledge is scarce but still they are growing and are more respected economies than India. But one thing we must remember is that we did not have the same past nor a similar present. We have been dependent on the West for most of our past, and continue to do so. Some industries (like the Hardware ones) are well established there and they are the most respected manufacturers in the world. But India lacks the infrastructure to be as big in many of areas owing a lot to lower levels of education, poverty etc etc... the never ending list... So, atleast as far as the current scenario goes (which is likely to extend atleast for a few decades) we cannot afford to take our own stand simply because we are still a dependent nation to a very significant extent...

Ajayan's and bala's Ids

Hai all... after a long gap... hope u all in pink. and this is for Jax... hey these are the ids of ajayan and bala. ungalajayan@yahoo.co.in chatchander@yahoo.com Send an invitation to them... ok. and what else pals...days r rolling on...here in chennai its raining for the past 2 days. so nice to see rains these days... nice whether. nothing more from my end...will get back to u all with lot more to say the next time.

1000 visitors

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Reply to Valli

Valli, "tempora mutantor et nos in illis", Anyway the blog design is almost three months old. I am planning to put something more colorful here with your help (all bloggers). Regarding the information I put on the blog, i just visit a couple of sites and follow links from there onwards. A similar method is given explained here. Valli, you can't expect Tamil to be present everywhere? "Engum Tamil, Edhilum Tamil" is a just a empty election promise, which takes no one any where. BTW if you are to opt for a language of your choice, choose something like French (atleast you will be able to read the menus in the swank restaturants) or Japanese (You might improve your drawing skills). Quod scripsi, scripsi is just a reflection of my mood on that that day. I just compose it on my way to work. Select an apt phrase for it and then blog it when I get some time. I think it is a good barometer of my thoughts during the previous day. That's all. You can add your comments on it, I won't mind any type of comments on it from my friends. If you feel anything is not agreeable to you, you can post your comments there. But don't post it here please. have a stormy weekend there. All of you, have a nice weekend. P.S. I'll be online tomorrow around 12:00 IST. Hope to catch someone online then. Rini'll be joining us on Monday, I hope.

Boyz...Dating...

Here's a sample lyric from the song "dating" in "Boyz" film... Boy: D-A-T-I-N-G... u and me were meant to be...yeah...I can clearly see...dating is a fantasy... Gal: Aiyyo.. love is full of pain... poda love is just a strain... Boy: Frienship enbadhu RAC.. Love confirm panna ni yosi... Gal: Friendship enbadhu full safety.. love 'il yedhu guarentee... Boy: Do u know I've been thinking all abt u, and I really want to know if u love me too...will u let me know that my heart is true... babe...when I see ur face I wanna be with u... Gal: Muga naga natpathu natpalla nejath aga naga natpadhu natpaagum...karka kasadara karpavai katrapin maraka cheivadhu love aagum... doesn't it sound very different compared to our usual songs..?? Its sounds even better with the music... Listen and Enjoy...

Ponder of the day...

I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.

does marquee work here...

now I know...

My project is driving me crazy. The architecting and designing was done before I was assigned to this project. Now, I don't get head or tails of how to go about my coding... they've asked me to code a screen in ASP.NET ... but haven't told anything abt the dependencies like tables etc., I have to go thru the design doc and understand that... the doc runs into reams of pages... I'm struggling with it... the client timelines is also unrealistic (as in any project)... I had a talk with my PL this afternoon (my "actual" PL... not the project's PL), and expressed my anguish to him... and said "I'm really struggling...". He coolly said "I want u to get that experience...!!" I asked him to pull me back after coding gets over and not to keep me there until delivery... He told "complete the coding... we'll see..." But, I'm not the only one sturggling in the project... today the client has told to use a tool called Xpresso which, it seems, is for accessing DB... but the trouble is that Xpresso is compatible ONLY with Java... so, if the client confirms this then the whole project will have to be re-done in Java... in that case, I'll escape... coz I cannot be involved for Java coding... :)) just hoping that happens... ;-))

Layout update

Fixed the archives. But as the Members box has been moved to the L.H.S. and the bios get displayed in the R.H.S., there might be some minor positioning issues in the bio display. Any way wait for a more colourful version of the blog soon. Those who didn't understand LHS and RHS, ask Ram. Awaitng posts from Sindhu, Manny and Rajesh. Long time since they posted.

Update

I'm finding it difficult to get the archives section to work. I think by tonight, it would be ready. BTW, I have updated my other blog, "Quod scripsi, scripsi". Ram, read your comments. I'll be updating that with one post everyday. So be sure to visit it everyday. News: Netscape is officially closed. There will be no more newer versions of IE Mac and IE Win (till Longhorn). Yahoo opens centre in India.

Bon jour

Dear Ram, Thanks for the link, da. I had already visited the site yesterday morning itself. The trouble is that they say the demo (which is free) will be removed without notification. So I am hesitant about maybe starting a class on it. BTW what does your last line mean? I couldn't understand it. I would say that both Kicha and Ganja are right in certain aspects of thier arguments. But still I would repeat what Kicha had said about reciprocivity. It makes a quite a lot of difference in understanding the other person. It should be more of a give and take policy.

Hi, ganesh's view that we might like to share some things with 45 rather than 11 and that everyone wud have enjoyed reading some posts like my narration is acceptable. But, my point is, when only 4 or 5 are intersted in sharing such information with everyone while the other people remain passive, it provides no boost to people like me to put up something... atleast, people must let know they enjoy certain things. We can't go on assuming everything and keep posting when there is no reciprocation from the other side... Reciprocity is a very vital factor... as a STS ganesh will know better about that...

Time for Sindu to proud of her town

News bulletin: Two students from St John's Matriculation school, Salem have been elected to the World Congressional Youth Leadership council, which held its meeting recently at Washington DC. This was the first time that an Indian student is being elected to this council.

Blog updated !!

I have updated my other blog, "Quod scripsi, scripsi." I am still working to get the archives section of our blog to work. Still trying...

Layout problem

Due to some minor alterations, the blog layout is breaking. Please bear with me till it's corrected.

Boyz

Just hearing songs of Boyz film. I've got the songs in my system here. Very good... the songs are pretty different.. a lot of college flavor in the song... with a tinge of western-urban touch... the songs are named like "Ale Ale", "Boom Boom","break the rules","Secret of success", "dating", "girl friend" ... so that gives an idea of wat we cud expect... especially the song "dating" is tooooo goood.... the song "boom boom" is sung by Adnan Sami...

Kicha, but it is also true that we bloggers have reduced our postings to the group. You also have accepted it. I have been seeing Ganesh and others post regularly to the group (in the recent past). I feel that the matter of relevance is very important. I suppose not many in the group will be interested in knowing that Microsoft has stopped development of IE, both Mac and Win versions or that Mozilla is better fro browsing than IE. To them, news like the above might be irrelevant. I don't know if any of the bloggers also feel so. Additionally, we forget that the blog does not occupy any space in our system, but the mails to the group consume a lot of space in your mailbox. Looks like start of a new discussion, I like this.

on ganja's view...

I too support Ram's view. group and blog are two different entities... but if we feel that the information we want to convey need to reach everyone then he/she might post the same thing in both places... only thing is that for bloggers it wud be redundant.. but generally speaking, I don't see any reason why we need to post in both places just because people are not mailing to groups. I used to send atleast some forwards to the groups regularly until not so long back, but now-a-days I've stopped that (almost) as I'm beginning to lose interest due to lack of any participation. But bloggers have been giving active participation right thru and it ain't any surprise that I'm still maintaining the same energy that I had when the blog consisted of only 4 members. Very often we find people who have not posted for quite a while starting with a quick apology for being a bit passive. That speaks more of the interest they have in blogging... Obviously, groups and blog are different entities... PS: strictly personal opinion. No generalization...

Ganesh, I think Ram was trying to say to you that you need not post messages that you have sent to msitmmb. But I disagree that we have stopped mailing to the group after the blog. Some things that are related to the msitmmb group should be posted there. Things that are informative to the blog must be posted here. It should be the reverse. Dei, Ganja, you are into marketing, that too at CP, you should know segmentation and niche markets. Great to hear from Valli again. Valli, I invited Kathu to the blog, she has not respoded yet. Sangeeis also not responding. Manny, no news from you, send the address of Ajayan and Bala for inclusion.

Madhu in infy...?? without my knowledge...???

Valli... here's more info.. Madhu is yet to get her offer letter - hard copy or email... and if u wonder how she came to know of her selection despite not receiving any mail or letter from infy... here's the answer.. I told her...!!!!! I enquired about her selection when she had requested me to do so and informed her of her selection.. she's expected to receive the offer letter by month-end... and u r asking if I knew this...!! Infy pathi yaaru muuchu vittalum en mela kaathu adikkum... PS: by kaathu I mean "wind"... ;-))

Browser Wars II: The Saga Continues

Read this informative article from evolt.org. It is about theBrowser Wars. Thinking about it, I feel that there are some truths in the article for web users like us.

Hey visit this site, A few things I've been trying to tell everyone @msitmmb.[Message Digital Design Ltd - The Problem with 'CC']

Why are there no posts on msitmmb? I keep checking and refreshing daily. I find only one or maybe two posts in a week. Can someone tell me?

Kicha, It was really a long post. Maybe the title should have been "All in a week's work!". BTW, where are the others, the entire group is missing. What happenned. Thanks Ram for your comment. keep visitng that blog. I'll try to update it daily if possible.

All in a day's work!

Hi, Out into the deep for a whole long week. Friday of the week-before, boarded the traditional Tuticorin express to madurai along with Rajesh, Swetha and her sister Sonia (sans "Antonio Mano")... Saturday 5-7: Got a TV at my house. Samsung Plano Bio with 300 watts output... Sunday 6-7: At rini's marriage. Met a lot of our friends. Covered by a few nostalgic tears, we went to Gowri Ganga that night for dinner before I sent off the chennai people in Pandian Exp. Monday 7-7: Slept almost the whole day. The only time of the dayt I didn't sleep was when I was taking bath and doing some other indispensable chores. Tuesday 8-7: Boarded Pandian Exp. Last time I boarded the train was when I went to take up the infy test... more nostalgia... Wednesday 9-7: Landed in Chennai and off to VisBabu's house to wake him, bala and ajayan. Remined me of "Sangeeth" days when I wake them all up at 6AM... Thursday 10-7: Went to attend a marriage. Ate heartily. The only trouble was it was so hearty that there was no place for my heart to pump out blood... Friday 11-7: Dragged bala and ajayan to Infy's Chennai Development Center. The last time I walked in there was for my interview... this time it felt awfully ecstatic to walk in righteosly... more reasons to be nastalgic. I met all my training batchmates. This time the trouble was that, the nostalgia was so much that my nose had even forgotten to leave out a few breaths of air. So, all the air accumulated inside my tummy. They got acted by some MealBananoCokicDewic acid and my tummy was proactive enough to flush out all the DiHydrogen Monoxide in differnt colors and odours. This celestial phenomenon needed a tablet shaped tablet and some holy water to take a detour. (whatever u understood don't ask me to explain this in simple words...) ;-))) Saturday 12-7: Went to The Beach. Cudn't find any Leonardo DiCaprios, But were able to see some Titanics and many Kate Winsletts (esp. one yellow tintedly dressed one) Sunday 13-7: Met Ganja and Rajesh and went to "Kaadhal Konden" film. An avial of Darr and Aalavandhan, but better much much than the latter... and boarded the Banagalore mail along with other mails and reached here this early morning... and just finished typing my post to the blog... and now on to the post... Hi, Out into the deep for a (...etc.....etc.......etc......etc....).......

A trial of TypePad

Hey everyone, visit Quod scripsi, scripsi. Fill in your comments on the blog itself. Don't post it in this blog please.

some new stuff...

Yep..!! Long post coming soon...

New Layout updates

I am working on the new layout for the blog. So far I managed to complete only the navigation panel "home | about |..." It's moving on slowly. Kicha is back at Bang. Awaiting a long post from his side. BTW where are the others? Nothing from Valli & Sindhu... Busya?

new blog tool

hey, While looking out for a blog tool, I came across TypePad. I signed up for a beta test. They accepted me and now I've got my own blog. Check it out at Typepad. Seems to be my posts are working again. Still working on the blog layout.

Updates to the blog...

Hey everyone, you can now give a title for all of your posts like this post. The title could be descriptive as this post. I feel the Members bio has become too large.

Yeah, got a little busy visiting a few clients. No post from me because I was thinking of creating a new layout for the blog. So I got caught up with some experimentations. I saw a wonderful site a few days back. I'm using it as an inspiration. Let see how it comes out. Your suggestions for the layout are welcome. If you come across a nice website (in terms of design and layout), blog it. No sites using Flash. please. Manny, send me the mail ids of Ajayan and Bala (the ids they use most frequently). Update: Members bio.

Hi all... good morning... hope u all in good health... and jax, ajayan and bala asked me to inform you abt their addition to the blog...send an invitation to them ASAP. Ram,...really i missed u in Madurai da... and that day, we were not able to do STD calls from ganja's cell...damn reliance...ganesh said that u tried to call him... no probs... nothing more from my end buddies... take care Mahen.

Hey, Found an interesting piece of information, "The Ten Commandments of Blogging". A good read.

Hi, Updated Rini's bio. Ganesh, please tell Sangee that the id and the password she gave me are wrong. Tell her I'll invite her again. Today, I'll be inviting Kathu Karthika to the blog. More later,

Hi,

Met a few of our co-bloggers at the wedding. So they know what happened there.

This post is for those unable to attend the wedding.

There were about eighteen of us there.

Boys: Ajayan, Sampath, Vijay, Rajesh, Ganesh, Sandhil, Kishore, Mahendran, Vignesh, Vinod Kannan

Girls: Sinduja, Kavitha, Sangeetha, Karthika, Karthiga, Swedha, Vasuki.

We collected about Rs. 1600. Sam said we'll buy some gold jewellery. Off went Manny and Sam to buy it. They bought a pair of earrings. "Thangam vanga Thangamayilukku vanga", Ganesh approved the jewellry as soon as he heard it name, "Jothika Thodu".

The interactions were great, especially as I was meeting most of them after almost more than a year.

Took a few snaps, Ganesh will be uploading them soon. Dei, ganesh, unnoda bank a/c no. annupu.

Sinduja said she saw Shana, Philo and Shobha on our way back from the hall. They were going to the hall. So that makes it twenty-one attendees.

That's it for now.

Waiting for others to post thier view of the wedding.

We'll be hearing from Rini around the 22nd or 23rd.

Ok, Kicha, BTW do you have our XML Digital Signature documentation as a soft copy? If yes, can I have a copy of that? yet to get my leave sanctioned. Waiting...

jax, Ram is already deep into priority 4... as is evident from the lack of post from him... About the books, I'm bringing "Interpretation of Dreams" that kavi had asked... "Conversations with God" am yet to complete... I'm not as fast a reader as u... so will take a bit more time... Kavi has also asked for that book... so u and kavi decide amongst urselves on who gets the book and i'll send it to the person. I'm also bringing a coupla mainframe material that manny wanted... and all the old BusinessWorld mags too... am gonna have more books than dresses in my bag...!!! Planning to meet rajesh, swetha outside HigginBothams - the famed meeting place for us - and move to station after dinner... So long... (again)

Bon jour, Still awaiting the sanctioning of my leave. If sanctioned, I will be starting tomorrow for MDU. More on yestersday's conversation with Ranjini. Informed her about Kurinji's sister's wedding. She said she expected atleast twenty of us there. Kicha, before you start from Bangalore, could you bring me any of the books that you said you had bought recently for me to read. Isn't Ram coming with you (or) is he working on his priority no. 4? Bye for now,

Hi, Am leaving today on my week-long vacation. Me, Rajesh, Swetha and her sister will be boarding train to mdu tonite... Sunday, expecting to meet all the other people at the marriage... and mid-way next week i'll be off to chennai. There won't be any blogging from my side until monday (14th) as I may not be going browsing. And there's lot at stake for fun over the next week. Eagerly looking forward to that. So long...

Valli, you said"guyz", not gals. BTW, I spoke to Ranjini in the evening. She seemed very excited. No posts from anyone today.

Hi, Relaxation for my fingers at last. I've been crossing it since y'day. Just came from the meeting. Had to make hard negotiations with the PL of that project. I assured him umpteen times that I'll make up for the lost time when I return. And at last made him budge. Cool now...!! Such hue and cry for a measly leave..!! But the poor PL has his own problems and they are escalated to us (me and the technical architect from my team - both involved in the project) now. There is a heavy manpower crunch in this project. Adequate resources not available on bench also. And the client is already started cribbing. The client is a company called Fidelity which caters to the BFSI segment in US. I'm going to be involved in both the architecture and coding activities. My PL (my actual PL, not the project's one) has "kindly" asked me work on a white paper which is in the pipeline at the same time as I'm involved in the project... So, to sum up... 1. A project with heavy manpower crunch... 2. Working in both architecture and coding aspects... 3. White paper preparation... This gives an idea to me how "free" am going to be in the next few weeks. My assignment is scheduled to be until end of September. So, I have to enjoy the next week's vacation as much as possible, coz after that it'll all be party time for me... ;-))

Sindhu, consider it magic... I give you your home address, you ask me how I got it? Wait, let me think... one day, a gut named J was browsing. He looked at a map of England and said, 'Let's see who is where in England.'. So he started looking at a crystal ball and started invoking the magic words, "elgoog, elgoog, oohay, oohay". Sounds like Sanskrit. Doesn't it? Let's try another language, "tseuqpam, tseuqpam, aidepxe, aidepxe". He found a small county with a funny name, "Leicestershire", There he found a place called Hinckley, named for a famous battle that took place long, long ago. A path led through the forest from Hinckley to Coventry at that time. Soon ages passed, the wooden forest was replaced by a concrete one. And then... Sorry time for me to go, rest tomorrow...

I hav come up with yet another interesting statistics. But this time I havn't did any analysis, just taken from a news column. Indians on top; beat whites, other Asians in GCSE runup Nabanita Sircar London, July 1 Indian students have continued to maintain the trend that has won them praise across Britain. They are outstripping their white classmates and other ethnic minority students in the run-up to the GCSEs, according to a report. The Department for Education and Skills census published this week revealed that while Indian, Bangladeshi and Chinese students are outperforming white students, Indians remain on the top. Previous studies also showed how pupils from Indian families were outshining all other ethnic groups, with 60 per cent gaining five good GCSEs. It is for the first time, though, that such a detailed breakdown has been compiled. Afro-Caribbean children have been performing below average, according to the report. Of those pupils who achieved good results at 14 - Key Stage Three - a whopping 72 per cent were Indian students who went on to get five GCSEs, graded A* to C. This compares to only 49 per cent white pupils, who are beaten by 71 per cent Bangladeshis and 70 per cent Chinese. The figures of the census are based on a study of more than 1.5 million pupils in state schools. Experts believe that traditional family values and hard work are responsible for the outstanding performance of young Asians. Department of Education analyst Storm Ballard said: "They're a lot more studious, they study more at home. Asians really want to work harder, having been given the advantage of a British education. A lot of white boys want to go out and have fun." Indian pupils are also more likely to study for A-Levels, with 49 per cent pursuing the qualifications as compared with 37 per cent of white children. Indian immigrant families were also more likely to come from middle-class backgrounds where parents stressed the importance of a good education.

Hi, It seems the PL of that project is pretty sceptical about having a guy who's going for a week-long leave at the start itself, even though an architect from my team (who's already consulting for that project) tried to assure him that the guy (ie., me) can make up. I was told there is going to be a meeting this evening and I'll be called for that. As far as possible he (my architect teammate) told me that if that PL doesn't accept, let him try to look for another person, but it would only be good for them if he accepts having me after the leave. Fingers still crossed...

Valli, Sorry, my mistake. I should have checked my mailbox first. Life is hard, Education is also very hard. BTW, Did you ever study daily at DES? And why was Kavi's current roommate 'info for all guyz'? Kicha, Same problem here. Atleast you'll be on a week long vacation. I've got only one day. I had applied for leave this Sat. My boss has given me a lot of work to be completed by tommorrow. Even my reason is very plausible. indeed. I've got to pay my fees for MCJ course. Everything goes as planned. I'll be at Mdu this weekend. It's been a long time since I had travelled in a bus. After spending two years travelling to and fro from Cbe to Mdu, I have ventured out of Coimbatore only thrice in the past one year. The first was for Sinduja's wedding. The second was to Coonoor (near Ooty) and the last was to drop my sister at Namakkal. I am very much eager to get into a bus and start travelling. Saw the photos on the group. Good to see people responding even though it has been the same group that has been responding for quite some time. No new faces around in the group. Regarding the membership to the blog, there are no reservations or discriminations. Anyone from our class is allowed to join. Permissions are just asked from everyone as they will be interacting with each other through this blog. If anyone wants to add anyone, just mention thier name and mail id. please send the mail id as xyz (at) Rediff/Yahoo etc. This is to prevent the mail id from being spammed. Bye,

Hi, Its getting tight for me. With a week-long vacation on the cards I got to finish as much as possible by the End of my week. To add to all this confusion, yesterday my PL told me there's a very urgent request from a project (here in Bangalore itself) and I'll be in that. I told everything is fine but the trouble is my next week's leave, I can't miss that one... My PL has sent a mail to that project guy recommending to consider my leave. They have told they'll get back to me y'day and waiting to hear from them. My PL has told me that the leave will not be an issue. Further, the reason I've given for leave is pretty heavy in its own rights and they might not afford to overlook that. But still, I'm having my fingers crossed... Will update on the issue soon...

Hi, Sorry, got bogged down with a lot of work. Manny, Good to hear that you get a lot of xposure to the latest technologies there. Valli, i mailed you a photograph. No reply from you yet. Sindhu, paarthu Boomi bondina , neeum bondithan. BTW. Is Granville Gardens, a bylane from Coventry Street? Hope to see those living in India this weekend @ Rini's wedding?

Hi all... fine. nice reading the stories from u all. for me i am now free most of the time...since i have completed my project before the deadline. oruthana vidama onlinela tholla panni kittu irukken. then my job is aostly like an R&D kind of work but not in the development side for that matter. i have to write technical reviews and tutorials in the newly emerging technologies and products in IT industry which will be posted in the official sites of a US website for reference for the people indulged in R&D...ha ha...what an irony...but the job as such is so good and i have to read a lot of books and i am learning a lot every day. That site is a paid site and the visitors has to pay for reading the technical stuff there in the site. most of the time i'll be checking mails and chatting meanwhile i'll be doing my work as well...ha ha. that's it about my job and now i am working in Cisco Devices ReferencePoint preparation with respect to Radius Server Configuration which is my pleasure to do as it goes in line with my interest in networking. In short, enjoying for the while. Coming to the lighter side, me, ganesh, vijay are used to roam around T nagar in the weekends and this is happening only for the past two weeks. Me and ganesh were used to talk daily. And now bala has been transferred to chennai and ajayan also coming to chennai. So our strength is increasing…. and we are now in the look out for a good “small wall”…ha ha…” Bad donkey…small wall”…kaluthai ketta kutti suvar’nnu sonnen…but for that matter, I wud say that nowadays our meetings are more constructive and productive and contributes something to our progress in our career and personal life as well…meetings involve frequent telephone calls as well…. And nothing more…by god’s grace if ganesh also gets posted in chennai (almost he’ll be) then me, ganesh, bala, ajayan, vijay babu…and rajesh also will join soon (I hope)…and expecting vickky tooo…to join us…then this will be again a small subset of MKU’s MSITM…here in chennai. Ok bye bye cutys. C u later….enna sindhu …pothuma posting…..?!!! ta ta. Mahen.